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2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« on: June 25, 2020, 07:35:57 pm »
I have custom 1500cc silicone implants and was considering going to 2000 or 2250 custom silicone.


My incisions have been through the nipple for my past surgeries but my doc now tells me if I wan't to go to 2000 or more he won't be able to go through the nipple he would need to make a 5-6 inch incision under the breast. I am concerned not only for the look of the scar but loosing additional sensitivity with a new scar in a different place.


Does anyone have any experience with this same issue?  If so what did you do and what was the result?


While I am happy to discuss, I am not interested in speculation since this is my body and we are talking real surgery with real consequences.


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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2020, 08:34:21 pm »
My wife has been through 3 surgeries - first two were through nipple, most recent was at the crease due to XL implant size, so very similar scenario. She preferred the recovery from the crease incisions, the scars are very small and hidden under her breasts, so not visible at all unless she's on her back. (And plenty of us implant fans actually like seeing the incision scars anyway). No change in sensitivity to her nipples this time; even if the surgeon had said the areola incision was a possibility, my wife would have selected the crease for fear of losing all sensitivity in her nipples due to more surgery there.

Hooe that helps. Good luck!!

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #2 on: June 25, 2020, 08:45:44 pm »
Hi SexxyMoeFoe. Lots of experience, both wives went under the fold for all surgeries.
Use some scar oil after surgery and it will slowly fade. here are a few tricks for that, like soaking the skin and then applying saran wrap to keep it from being absorbed into clothing. The stuff actually works, really really well. They used Bio Oil, which was particularly effective on pale skin.

A loss of sensation, in addition to nerve severing, can also be caused by too much compression from the bra afterwards.
There is always some risk of loss of sensation. Since the "loss of sensation" is difficult to measure and subjective to reporting, no really good data exists on which is the more viable method for preserving it. With few exceptions, sensation always returns, even if only in part.

In my opinion of visual aesthetic, I personally prefer under the fold to nipple scarring. You would want to make your own decision there, for how you view yourself. In general, guys tend to be less critical on the aestetic that you will probably be. For example, most guys are fine with stretch marks. Some find the scars appealing. Feel free to post back here with more questions or your results. Good luck with your planning, research, and journey.

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2020, 12:16:20 am »
My wife has been through 3 surgeries - first two were through nipple, most recent was at the crease due to XL implant size, so very similar scenario. She preferred the recovery from the crease incisions, the scars are very small and hidden under her breasts, so not visible at all unless she's on her back. (And plenty of us implant fans actually like seeing the incision scars anyway). No change in sensitivity to her nipples this time; even if the surgeon had said the areola incision was a possibility, my wife would have selected the crease for fear of losing all sensitivity in her nipples due to more surgery there.

Hooe that helps. Good luck!!


Unfortunately for me the scars would be quite big because of the pre-filled silicone.  Doc said 5-6 inches.  If it was a small scar I wouldn't mind at all... Otherwise sounds similar. 


How big would you say her scars were?  I am assuming she had saline and not silicone.  Did she experience a larger or different area of sensation loss?
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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2020, 12:20:24 am »
Hi,


No offense but I am not concerned with what guys prefer as far as scarring. I also don't have pale skin, I am quite brown. AND I LOVE underboob pics and I think I wouldn't want to do them if I had a large scar.


I am sure the scar would fade somewhat but I am wondering to what degree. Usually when I see adult personalities with larger scars in the fold, they are noticeable.


I already have scars and lost some sensation around my breast (luckily nipples are fine). I am wondering if I would lose more sensation and potentially in a different location and end up with a larger area of sensation loss.


This is why I was wondering is anyone has had incisions in different areas to understand what happened to them.
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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2020, 09:53:14 am »
No offense but I am not concerned with what guys prefer as far as scarring.
None taken, just was not sure how you balance your self image, so in an absence of defined boundaries, I filled out the corner cases.

>> I also don't have pale skin, I am quite brown.
In general, scarring is less initially color shifted on darker skin, although if memory serves it tends to stick darker with time. Since I was not aware of your skin tone, I offered my personal experience. Taking the red or purple out of pale skin is harder than with darker skin as the lack of pigmentation cannot hide it. So, you might give bio oil a try or do some other research focused on your skin tone. Or ignore the information as not applicable to you, as you choose. You have some other cosmetic options, fractional lasering is one such:
https://journals.lww.com/jewds/Pages/articleviewer.aspx?year=2017&issue=05000&article=00011&type=Fulltext
but since I have nobody I have gone through multiple breast augmentations with your skin tone, I am afraid all I can do there is speculate and suggest you research your specifics.
The actual site owner admin here has a gf who is Asiatic, and I believe a bit of skin toning. You might try sending a private message to Kwukduck and see if he has more direct input.

>> Usually when I see adult personalities with larger scars in the fold, they are noticeable.
It is possible since adult stars are marketing to a fan base that may prefer scarring, or simply not care, that they chose to do nothing about it. I would not necessarily use that as a frame of reference for what normal scarring would be. It would be ideal tho, to check on people who share your skin tone.

>> I already have scars and lost some sensation around my breast (luckily nipples are fine). I am wondering if I would lose more sensation and potentially in a different location and end up with a larger area of sensation loss.
As stated above, ALL surgical procedures that sever nerve links through the skin run a risk of incomplete, or non existent return of sensation. Statistically this is about 10-20% of cases. Each time you undergo the knife, you roll the dice. This risk factor does not change substantially by incision location unless you have a bad nipple incision doctor.

But what can affect it additionally you did not acknowledge; compression from the bra afterwards. This can also exacerbate nerve elongation, which is more common to result in numbness and partial sensitivity loss than outright cutting, since it is less of a pathway-rebuilding exercise for your body, and more of an atrophy situation. This can also couple with restricting blood flow, which can also negatively impact nerve regrowth during the healing process.

Sorry I could not be of more help.

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2020, 08:27:42 pm »
Thanks for the reply.

I don't think I can disregard what I have seen in porn as far as scarring.  Yes there may be those who are catering to a specific market or fetish, but if the doc is telling me I will have a 5-6 inch visible scar and there isn't much he can to do to minimize it, I don't think it's an outlier, I think this is just how this incision heals. (and yes I have see both black and white models with this scar). There are probably steps I can take as well but I don't think the scar will ever be not noticeable...

I didn't mention compression bras as I typically haven't needed to wear them so this is not an issue for me.  Idk if it would be necessary it I did go to 2000ccs and had the underbreast incision

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2020, 12:52:23 am »
doc is telling me I will have a 5-6 inch visible scar and there isn't much he can to do to minimize it,
You are correct there, XL silicone will leave a long scar. There are some items to consider one doctor used a greased up funnel, I believe he patented the process. Reduced scarring length. Dunno if that is an option.

>> I didn't mention compression bras as I typically haven't needed to wear them so this is not an issue for me
No, not compression bras, the compression that a bra will now impart with new heavy boobs. Any bra, surgical or otherwise, will now fit differently, even with an increased cup size. If your boobs weigh 5lbs each, it puts a lot of pressure on the tissue that can stop blood flow. One of my wives has had hers up to 7125cc each and thankfully had no issues, but I have seen models lose skin and the implants because of too much compression on the skin. Some with 2k. It can also be hard to tell, until the hole has developed, and getting it to heal back under pressure of the new implants is difficult, if not impossible. Requires explant. This is all aside from it also increasing nerve damage. Both my wives have XL and we never had any compression issues, they also had to switch out for multiple bras. Two or three different bras, which help support and uplift without causing a lot of pressure. First wife in our family, Titsmcgee3750 is on this forum, maybe check her thread or send her a PM for brand suggestions. Depending on your frame type, finding a bra that fits and does not cause problems will become a huge challenge.

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2020, 02:06:38 am »
I have custom 1500cc silicone implants and was considering going to 2000 or 2250 custom silicone.


My incisions have been through the nipple for my past surgeries but my doc now tells me if I wan't to go to 2000 or more he won't be able to go through the nipple he would need to make a 5-6 inch incision under the breast. I am concerned not only for the look of the scar but loosing additional sensitivity with a new scar in a different place.


Does anyone have any experience with this same issue?  If so what did you do and what was the result?


While I am happy to discuss, I am not interested in speculation since this is my body and we are talking real surgery with real consequences.


Thanks In advance!

I've heard various stories of countless girls about loss or gain of sensitivity. It seems something that's very hard to control.
My gf has crease incisions (more like 3-4 inch) and 500cc and experienced quite severe loss of sensation, her breasts were not too sensitive to begin with and some feeling has recovered, but she still has a lot of numbness in her cleavage area.

If i understand correctly, temporary loss of sensation is mostly due to compression and stretching of the skin and nerves in the tissue, which will relax again after a few weeks/months. Permanent loss of sensation is mostly because of pocket creation where nerves are completely severed.

If this is correct, you may experience very little permanent loss of sensation, if any, by having crease incisions, as no new pocket is created.
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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2020, 02:17:59 am »

>> [size=78%]No, not compression bras, the compression that a bra will now impart with new heavy boobs[/size]I don't wear regular bras either


>> [size=78%]If this is correct, you may experience very little permanent loss of sensation, if any, by having crease incisions, as no new pocket is created.[/size]
No new pocket but there may be a need to expand that pocket to hold the bigger implant.  Idk if that would cause any more nerves to be severed.
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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2020, 06:58:43 am »
As was pointed out earlier by poot222, there is a lubricated (by a water based lube, not a grease) funnel that surgeons can use to much more elegantly get a big implant through an even smaller incision. There are actually two available now, the "Keller Funnel", which has been around for close to a decade and apparently is now in its second generation revision, and also one I just happened to find that is from a another manufacturer who calls theirs "iNPLANT Funnel". It is hard to tell, but it looks like the iNPLANT Funnel might be able to hold a larger implant because it is closed except for the tip and has a ziplock type of seam down the side. Capacity may be an issue when you are talking about ~2000cc implants that are probably less than 0.1% of the implant market. Unless the surgeon has used this one of these before with a huge implant, they might need to consult the manufacturer to find out what the real MAXIMUM capacity is.  I'm skeptical that a surgeon would really need a 6 inch wide incision to place a 2000cc implant with a funnel. If you do the math, the volume of an implant goes up as the cube of its linear dimensions, so since they recommend cutting the tip to 5.5cm (2.17")wide for a 450-550cc implant (according to the markings I saw in a close-up photo) with one of these funnels, that would imply that they could put a 4000cc implant through an 11cm wide funnel tip and incision, but maybe that is an extrapolation that doesn't hold true in the real world; I don't know, I'm not a plastic surgeon, I don't even play one on TV. However, these are 2000cc silicone gel implants we are talking about, there should be some wiggle room ;)
Any way you cut it, I wish you good luck if you move forward with this up-sizing revision, you will need all the luck you can get to avoid complications when you are describing the size of your implants not in hundreds of cc's, but in thousands of cc's

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #11 on: November 03, 2020, 01:45:52 am »
I agree that if you were able to take 1500cc via peri-areolar incision, 2000cc should be possible physically, at least, albeit perhaps with some finesse regarding the incision. It's not Dr. Baeke is it... he's just getting back into things (the only American I know of currently willing to use silicone at this size).

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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #12 on: November 06, 2020, 03:51:53 am »
I really do appreciate the concern, well wishes, and comments, but asking my doc if he's ever heard of funnels or telling him there may be wiggle room because some non-medical guys on a breast forum said so... doesn't change anything. (Again no offense)


According to my doctor (yes one of the well known XXL implant guys), 2000ccs won't fit through the areola. Speculation from anyone else isn't really the point since he's the one who would be doing the surgery and knows what's possible given my body size, areola size etc... 


That's why I was hoping to find someone who had incisions in multiple places to see what, if any, issues they had with scarring, sensation loss, and possibly anything else that may be a concern after multiple upgrades ((infection, back pain, size and shape, etc etc).



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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
« Reply #13 on: November 06, 2020, 09:14:59 pm »
I really do appreciate the concern, well wishes, and comments, but asking my doc if he's ever heard of funnels or telling him there may be wiggle room because some non-medical guys on a breast forum said so... doesn't change anything. (Again no offense)


According to my doctor (yes one of the well known XXL implant guys), 2000ccs won't fit through the areola. Speculation from anyone else isn't really the point since he's the one who would be doing the surgery and knows what's possible given my body size, areola size etc... 


That's why I was hoping to find someone who had incisions in multiple places to see what, if any, issues they had with scarring, sensation loss, and possibly anything else that may be a concern after multiple upgrades ((infection, back pain, size and shape, etc etc).





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Re: 2000cc+ in SILICONE????
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