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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #150 on: May 22, 2020, 03:25:46 am »
The U.S. and South Korea had their first cases of Covid right around the same time.

Keep in mind South Korea is roughly 1/5 the size of the US:

US cases - 1,600,000
SK cases - 11,000

US deaths - 96,000
SK deaths - 264

The disparity between these numbers is obscene. And why? Because South Korea took this seriously, had a plan in place, followed it, and aggressively tested. South Korea is almost 100% reopened while we sit and wait.

Bottom line is that Trump and the Government dropped the ball on this. While he was saying it was a Democratic hoax, the South Koreans were dealing with the issue at hand. And their most populated city, Seoul, is larger than NYC and didn't have a massive outbreak. If Trump had taken this seriously, and not ditched the pandemic preparedness team, we'd be in much better shape right now.

I read and pay attention and am always skeptical of just about everything. I don't swallow everything the government or media tells me, but I do tend to lean towards listening to the experts.

Bottom line, Trump didn't respond and it's costing us big time. But what do we really expect from a shady casino owner/reality TV star who was born a millionaire and has never held a political office before?


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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #151 on: May 22, 2020, 11:36:28 am »
Well. South Korea has one advantage to other comparable countries, e.g. those in middle Europe. It can be only reached by ship or aircraft.
In Europe there is a lot of land based traffic between the hot spots. That's why also a physical travel shut down was required.
And in Asia wearing a protective mask, using a tracking App isn't considered being a sheep, a coward or germaphobe. By the way by saying this and despising these protective measures this is a natural behaviours in fascist ideology - eg. the Nazi-ideology.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #152 on: May 22, 2020, 02:44:18 pm »
Well. South Korea has one advantage to other comparable countries, e.g. those in middle Europe. It can be only reached by ship or aircraft.
In Europe there is a lot of land based traffic between the hot spots. That's why also a physical travel shut down was required.
And in Asia wearing a protective mask, using a tracking App isn't considered being a sheep, a coward or germaphobe. By the way by saying this and despising these protective measures this is a natural behaviours in fascist ideology - eg. the Nazi-ideology.

By the way the biggest hot spots in south Korea was a religious sect, that didn't  care on their gatherings and the other one was a call center.

In Germany lately the biggest hot spots became slaughterhouses with their bad and worse housing apartments were this underpaid workers (as subcontractors) mostly coming from Eastern Europe lived. As a consequence subcontractors will not be allowed anymore in slaughterhouses by 2021 ...
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #153 on: May 22, 2020, 03:39:52 pm »
The U.S. and South Korea had their first cases of Covid right around the same time.

Keep in mind South Korea is roughly 1/5 the size of the US:

US cases - 1,600,000
SK cases - 11,000

US deaths - 96,000
SK deaths - 264

The disparity between these numbers is obscene. And why? Because South Korea took this seriously, had a plan in place, followed it, and aggressively tested. South Korea is almost 100% reopened while we sit and wait.

It's cute that you believe the numbers SK is putting out there are accurate.  Not to mention the accuracy, or lack thereof, of the US numbers.

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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #154 on: May 22, 2020, 04:18:21 pm »
"It's cute that you believe the numbers SK is putting out there are accurate.  Not to mention the accuracy, or lack thereof, of the US numbers."

I have a friend who was a US citizen, but then because of a tax dispute, he renounced his US citizenship to become a South Korean citizen. He now lives in Singapore, but he still travels to the US frequently.

Early on in the pandemic, South Korea--because he was a South Korean citizen--was obsessively keeping tabs on him, his movements, his temperature. They developed an app. He was required to take his temperature every day at set intervals and input the data into the app. If he failed to do so, his phone would ring with a person reminding him to do so. South Korea got this system in place very early on. And my friend even got the calls even though he never traveled inside South Korea and was never there during the pandemic.

By contrast, my friend flew into the United State from Asia during the same period which was after the direct flights from China into the US were stopped. He described a system in which getting off the plane, there was no screening whatsoever! Specifically, he entered Chicago on a direct flight from Japan. Obviously, the supposed benefit of shutting down flights to and from China are diminished where there are still jumping off points into the US from China. This example shows how hopeless the US is that in believing that there is a public health crisis sufficiently important to shut down all flights into the US from China that they cannot also manage to get someone to take temperatures on passengers disembarking flights from points in Asia.

I offer this story to demonstrate the tremendous differences in response to the catastrophe based upon preparedness.

To return to the earlier question: who is cooking the books. I think that you have it exactly backwards! The South Korean government understands (and demonstrates) that an open public health response is better. This difference is fundamental. And it helps to explain why there is so much less buy in from the populace in the US than elsewhere in the world. (The skeptical responses on this board point to a crisis in confidence. Indeed, part of our problem right now is that we in the US have so very little faith in our government.) Further, it's far more likely that the US numbers have been massaged than the South Korean numbers. For instance, we know that the Florida state epidemiologist in charge of keeping the numbers was fired for not keeping them low. We know that early on Trump wouldn't let passengers off the cruise ship because he liked the numbers where they were.

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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #155 on: May 22, 2020, 05:06:58 pm »
And it helps to explain why there is so much less buy in from the populace in the US than elsewhere in the world.

Not exactly true. There are two countries in the world people have problems with the protective measures. Where they believe in conspiracy myths that Bill Gates is the reason for COVID-19, he want to vaccine all and with this implant micro chips (and similar bullshit) and carrying this idiocy violently onto the streets:

US and Germany
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #156 on: May 23, 2020, 06:07:32 pm »
81% Of Canadian COVID Deaths Are In Nursing Homes

'A new report citing Canada’s Chief Public Health Officer Theresa Tam, confirms that among Canada’s coronavirus fatalities, 81 percent were in nursing homes – affecting the elderly with long-term chronic health conditions.'

https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/05/21/report-coronavirus-in-canada-81-percent-of-covid-19-deaths-in-nursing-homes/

Go to Table 5 - https://www.canada.ca/content/dam/phac-aspc/documents/services/diseases/2019-novel-coronavirus-infection/surv-covid19-epi-update-eng.pdf

The lockdowns were/are MORONIC.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #157 on: May 23, 2020, 06:53:42 pm »
California doctors say they've seen more deaths from suicide than coronavirus since lockdowns

'Doctors in Northern California say they have seen more deaths from suicide than they’ve seen from the coronavirus during the pandemic.

“The numbers are unprecedented,” Dr. Michael deBoisblanc of John Muir Medical Center in Walnut Creek, California, told ABC 7 News about the increase of deaths by suicide, adding that he’s seen a “year’s worth of suicides” in the last four weeks alone.'


https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/california-doctors-say-theyve-seen-more-deaths-from-suicide-than-coronavirus-since-lockdowns

Of course, not that you big government-lovers give a shit about all the misery that the lockdowns are causing. All the added domestic violence, drug/alcoholism, huge increase in bankruptcies, suicides.
 
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #158 on: May 23, 2020, 07:54:09 pm »
Hey 888 your boss from Germany is calling in from 1945.

He wants his Nazi propaganda back. He recognized it is only for idiots and plans to shoot himself on April, 30th 1945.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #159 on: May 23, 2020, 08:07:49 pm »
Hey 888 your boss from Germany is calling in from 1945.

He wants his Nazi propaganda back. He recognized it is only for idiots and plans to shoot himself on April, 30th 1945.

🤣🤣
We now see andrat2000.

He racked his brain and this was the response he came up with...that.
 
So now we know - you have NOTHING to respond to the facts I post...just anger, incoherent blather and trolling.

I love people like you...you make me feel SO much better about myself.

Have a wonderful day.


Anyways...back to the subject:

From Judge Napolitano. A man who knows a HELL of a lot more about American law than any schmuck on here.

'The third constitutional issue is: Can a state legislature enact laws that interfere with personal liberties protected by the Bill of Rights, prescribe punishments for violations of those laws and authorize governors to use force to compel compliance? Again, the answer is no because all government in America is subordinate to the natural rights articulated in the Bill of Rights and embraced in the Ninth Amendment.'

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/05/andrew-p-napolitano/do-we-still-have-a-constitution/

There you are - proof positive...forcing people to stay home, to not peacefully assemble or go to church IS unconstitutional. It breaks the law.

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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #160 on: May 23, 2020, 08:50:30 pm »
I said and answered what I had to say. You keep coming up with your Nazi propaganda. In a democracy I can't discuss and negotiate democratic positions on one side and with your Nazi propaganda on the other side and come up with an about 50:50 result out of it.

The result wouldn't be of democratic values anymore. So nothing to discuss with you. The rest of the people here have democratic values and positions, so with them I continue to discuss.

Speaking about trolls sending unwanted PM's. https://pasteboard.co/J9JY8Fm.png
Just to sort that in. The PM he wrote directly after his last post above.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #161 on: May 23, 2020, 09:18:49 pm »
We again get a Fox News idiot as reference presented: Judge Napolitano.

Please everyone consider this biased statements.

Also consider his other source reference bias Lewrockwell as extremist right (in other words: a Nazi-Source)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/lew-rockwell/

Washington Examiner is just a bit less extremist right: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

Please everyone consider the references presented by a Nazi to you if you really want to take it as REAL or if it is more likely Nazi-Propaganda.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #162 on: May 23, 2020, 09:49:18 pm »
We again get a Fox News idiot as reference presented: Judge Napolitano.

Please everyone consider this biased statements.

Also consider his other source reference bias Lewrockwell as extremist right (in other words: a Nazi-Source)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/lew-rockwell/

Washington Examiner is just a bit less extremist right: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

Please everyone consider the references presented by a Nazi to you if you really want to take it as REAL or if it is more likely Nazi-Propaganda.

Hey, you gay little Nazi, it doesn't matter where the article comes from...DUH.

All that matters is who wrote them...again...well DUH.

Only a complete dufus dismisses an article solely on who re-posted it. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

And 'The Judge' is a Libertarian...and he WAS a judge who knows a HELL of a lot more about the law then you ever will.

'Napolitano served as a New Jersey Superior Court judge from 1987 to 1995. He was a visiting professor at Brooklyn Law School. He has written nine books on legal and political subjects.'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Napolitano

But okay, why don't you show us a link to unbiased, factual proof that the US lockdowns did not in ANY WAY violate the Bill of Rights?

I bet that you cannot....which means your words mean - as per usual on this subject - NOTHING.


And here is an article I think you will 'like':

COVID-19 a ‘boomer remover’ — Why millennials are angry and done with older generation

'As the world grapples with the coronavirus pandemic, the words ‘Boomer Remover’ featured prominently in Twitter trends the past couple of days. It is, of course, a mean yet on-point joke about how the majority of the COVID-19 pandemic’s death toll are the elderly.

What is the reason for this pushback and anger against Boomers across the world, and in particular, against uncles in India? ‘OK Boomer’ and ‘Uncle, please sit’ are now popular catchphrases to signal that young people have had enough of the policies and politics that have got us to this point. Boomers have handed younger generations a broken economy, an ailing planet, and nuclear weapons – but won’t stop with the lectures.'


https://theprint.in/opinion/pov/covid-19-a-boomer-remover-why-millennials-are-angry-and-done-with-older-generation/381223/

I will have to remember tha one - 'Boomer Remover'.


Here is another one:

'Zoomers are calling coronavirus ‘boomer remover’

'It's not a laughing matter.

Leave it to Generation Z to come up with a brutal nickname for a global pandemic. But leave it to people angry about the tag to keep ‘boomer remover’ trending—and make the hashtag a meme.

“Every tweet in the hashtag #BoomerRemover is someone complaining that the millennials are saying it, like, ur the ones making it trend ffs,” @marymaudlinn wrote on Twitter.


#BoomerRemover, which trended on Twitter and TikTok on Friday, is gallows humor at its most extreme. The coronavirus causes respiratory illness COVID-19 and has caused 41 deaths in the U.S., according to the CDC, with over 1,600 reported cases. The elderly, immunocompromised, and children are at the highest risk of catching COVID-19.

Like the explosion of “OK boomer” memes, the hashtag reflects a difficult political climate and growing animosity between generations.

“Its so they can finally afford rent, since boomers made policies that benefitted themselves at the expense of others for decades,” @mo_tariq wrote. “And millennials have been blamed for all of society’s problems.”'


https://www.dailydot.com/irl/boomer-remover-meme/

So, I guess you think all Zoomers are Nazis too - 🤣🤣🤣.

Have a nice day.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #163 on: May 23, 2020, 10:06:02 pm »
We again get a Fox News idiot as reference presented: Judge Napolitano.

Please everyone consider this biased statements.

Also consider his other source reference bias Lewrockwell as extremist right (in other words: a Nazi-Source)
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/lew-rockwell/

Washington Examiner is just a bit less extremist right: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/washington-examiner/

Please everyone consider the references presented by a Nazi to you if you really want to take it as REAL or if it is more likely Nazi-Propaganda.

Here are the two Amendments in the US Bill Of Rights that makes the lockdowns unconstitutional

'Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Bill_of_Rights#First_Amendment

And this is the Fourteenth Amendment, Section 1:

'Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.'

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution#Text

The first one says that Americans MUST be able to peacefully assemble AND have freedom of religion.

And the second one states that no state may take those rights away.


The U.S. lockdowns ARE - by law - unconstitutional.

Got it yet?

I doubt it.

Ta ta.
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Re: COVID-19 - Talk of the day
« Reply #164 on: May 23, 2020, 11:09:18 pm »
As said before, no discussion with a Nazi negotiating democratic values.

Another result out of it would be this:

"Discussions with Nazis is like playing chess with a pigeon.
No matter how well you play chess, the pigeon will knock over all the pieces, poop on the board and flaunt around as if it had won."
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