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Re: Unknown Black Babe
« on: October 15, 2017, 02:31:06 pm »
From the pinned post at the top of this sub-forum:

"if there's no clear indication that she has breast implants, they will delete the topic."

MOD: this discussion was split out from https://theperfectboobs.net/index.php?topic=42399
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #1 on: October 15, 2017, 06:13:35 pm »
When I saw this post a while back on IG the poster said she did.  From the look of her figure too it looks more unlikely there natural.

I also remember a mod saying a while back to leave modding to the mods.  If you are really that concerned about a post, hit the report button.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #2 on: October 15, 2017, 07:35:22 pm »
The poster on Instagram being her? Or someone else? Link? And they could easily be either padding, a morph, or saggy naturals. So far, there is no clear indication they are implants.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2017, 09:25:47 pm »
Are you Grand Inquisitor now? XD

I hope the mods can explain the spirit of this rule because I think you're misinterpreting it.   There have been plenty of posts here lately where it's very obvious the subject doesn't have implants.

If that's not the case, then there are plenty of threasd that should be deleted, example Irina Ivanova, who I don't think has ever said she had implants.  Maybe she just grew naturally, and by this standard her thread deleted.

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Re: NATURALS WILL BE DELETED!
« Reply #4 on: October 15, 2017, 09:53:40 pm »
Can one of the mods please explain this rule further?

There is a disagreement here:
https://theperfectboobs.net/index.php?topic=42399.0

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #5 on: October 15, 2017, 09:56:49 pm »
There have been plenty of posts here lately where it's very obvious the subject doesn't have implants.

Yes, and the mods delete them when they discover them.

example Irina Ivanova, who I don't think has ever said she had implants.

Nothing to do with the girl admitting it or not. Read the quote from the pinned thread. Iryna's thread has plenty of topless pics where it's clear she has implants.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #6 on: October 15, 2017, 09:58:24 pm »
Are you Grand Inquisitor now? XD

I hope the mods can explain the spirit of this rule because I think you're misinterpreting it.   There have been plenty of posts here lately where it's very obvious the subject doesn't have implants.

If that's not the case, then there are plenty of threasd that should be deleted, example Irina Ivanova, who I don't think has ever said she had implants.  Maybe she just grew naturally, and by this standard her thread deleted.

Err.... Axis. If you mean  Iryna Ivanova, She definitely has implants. https://www.boobieblog.com/?p=54137
That was probably just a poor example choice for a questionable "implants" or not girl.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #7 on: October 15, 2017, 10:24:16 pm »
Are you Grand Inquisitor now? XD

I hope the mods can explain the spirit of this rule because I think you're misinterpreting it.   There have been plenty of posts here lately where it's very obvious the subject doesn't have implants.

If that's not the case, then there are plenty of threasd that should be deleted, example Irina Ivanova, who I don't think has ever said she had implants.  Maybe she just grew naturally, and by this standard her thread deleted.

Err.... Axis. If you mean  Iryna Ivanova, She definitely has implants. https://www.boobieblog.com/?p=54137
That was probably just a poor example choice for a questionable "implants" or not girl.

Not a mistake Theo... ;)

This is exactly my point.  I agree, it's obvious to most people that she is enhanced, which I think she is.  However, there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case.

It seems that there is some sense of reason that needs to be used when applying this rule.  I understand why they mods set it, it was because there was post after post after post of girls that were obviously natural (think Score Voluptuous).

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #8 on: October 15, 2017, 10:28:57 pm »
Nothing to do with the girl admitting it or not. Read the quote from the pinned thread. Iryna's thread has plenty of topless pics where it's clear she has implants.

Actually it isn't clear, like I just said in my other response just now.  For all any of us know for sure, it could just be growth, and by your opinion of this rule, her thread deleted.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #9 on: October 15, 2017, 11:43:49 pm »
Actually it isn't clear, like I just said in my other response just now.  For all any of us know for sure, it could just be growth, and by your opinion of this rule, her thread deleted.

.... the "level" of proof you require for implants is nuts.   

What does a girl need to prove? Actually speaking out about it? Closeup photos of scars? Doctors note on the type of implant or CC's?



Iryna's are clearly fakes and there are plenty of videos that show them as implants. Unlike other threads/girls, this isn't even guess as Iryna's thread has tons of her snap videos posted.

Most people would just say they picked a bad example of fake/naturals, so seriously. Stop doubling down on making your own fake news.


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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #10 on: October 15, 2017, 11:47:02 pm »
I agree with everything you said dude...  read my post more carefully.

As for level of proof, direct your question to the other poster:

The poster on Instagram being her? Or someone else? Link? And they could easily be either padding, a morph, or saggy naturals. So far, there is no clear indication they are implants.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2017, 12:17:31 am »
I agree with everything you said dude...  read my post more carefully.
Err.. I did read your posts. Here. I'll simply quote you:
Nothing to do with the girl admitting it or not. Read the quote from the pinned thread. Iryna's thread has plenty of topless pics where it's clear she has implants.

Actually it isn't clear, like I just said in my other response just now.  For all any of us know for sure, it could just be growth, and by your opinion of this rule, her thread deleted.
Here is you saying: Iryna's boobs could all be just growth....

Are you Grand Inquisitor now? XD

I hope the mods can explain the spirit of this rule because I think you're misinterpreting it.   There have been plenty of posts here lately where it's very obvious the subject doesn't have implants.

If that's not the case, then there are plenty of threasd that should be deleted, example Irina Ivanova, who I don't think has ever said she had implants.  Maybe she just grew naturally, and by this standard her thread deleted.

Err.... Axis. If you mean  Iryna Ivanova, She definitely has implants. https://www.boobieblog.com/?p=54137
That was probably just a poor example choice for a questionable "implants" or not girl.

Not a mistake Theo... ;)

This is exactly my point.  I agree, it's obvious to most people that she is enhanced, which I think she is.  However, there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case.

It seems that there is some sense of reason that needs to be used when applying this rule.  I understand why they mods set it, it was because there was post after post after post of girls that were obviously natural (think Score Voluptuous).
Then here you are replying to me, first agreeing with me by saying she's obviously enhanced, then disagreeing by saying "there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case."


If you needed video proof, here's a gif of snap that was in Iryna's thread. 


If you are going to pull the "I don't think they are fake card", please at least pick a girl in which her implants are questionable or to be determined. Not one that has a ton of content clearly showing they're fake.

Agreeing with someone, then disagreeing with them usually means you are trying to play both sides of the argument. Which would only work if the example of Iryna's boobs was questionable. But you choose poorly. Iryna's boobs are definitely fake.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2017, 12:39:48 am »
I agree with everything you said dude...  read my post more carefully.
Err.. I did read your posts. Here. I'll simply quote you:
Nothing to do with the girl admitting it or not. Read the quote from the pinned thread. Iryna's thread has plenty of topless pics where it's clear she has implants.

Actually it isn't clear, like I just said in my other response just now.  For all any of us know for sure, it could just be growth, and by your opinion of this rule, her thread deleted.
Here is you saying: Iryna's boobs could all be just growth....

Are you Grand Inquisitor now? XD

I hope the mods can explain the spirit of this rule because I think you're misinterpreting it.   There have been plenty of posts here lately where it's very obvious the subject doesn't have implants.

If that's not the case, then there are plenty of threasd that should be deleted, example Irina Ivanova, who I don't think has ever said she had implants.  Maybe she just grew naturally, and by this standard her thread deleted.

Err.... Axis. If you mean  Iryna Ivanova, She definitely has implants. https://www.boobieblog.com/?p=54137
That was probably just a poor example choice for a questionable "implants" or not girl.

Not a mistake Theo... ;)

This is exactly my point.  I agree, it's obvious to most people that she is enhanced, which I think she is.  However, there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case.

It seems that there is some sense of reason that needs to be used when applying this rule.  I understand why they mods set it, it was because there was post after post after post of girls that were obviously natural (think Score Voluptuous).
Then here you are replying to me, first agreeing with me by saying she's obviously enhanced, then disagreeing by saying "there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case."


If you needed video proof, here's a gif of snap that was in Iryna's thread. 


If you are going to pull the "I don't think they are fake card", please at least pick a girl in which her implants are questionable or to be determined. Not one that has a ton of content clearly showing they're fake.

Agreeing with someone, then disagreeing with them usually means you are trying to play both sides of the argument. Which would only work if the example of Iryna's boobs was questionable. But you choose poorly. Iryna's boobs are definitely fake.

Dude, either you don't understand my argument, or you didn't read carefully enough, or you didn't notice start of this debate.  Let me rehash:

- I posted a photo of a girl who, while dressed, looked to have a figure that is enhanced.
- Another poster implied that thread should be deleted because of the question of her enhanced figure.
- I responded saying I remember the post on IG stating the subject was enhanced.
- The other poster proceeded to ask me for detailed proof.
- I responded saying that the way that person was interpreting this rule seemed incorrect.  If their interpretation was correct, it could probably cause threads of models we like and strongly believe to be enhancde to be deleted.

I used Iryna as an example because, like you, I and others here, can look at her figure and say she is very likely enhanced.  However there is no "proof" of her enhancement (that I know of) besides her look that you, me and others think looks fake.

You don't seem to recognize this, but when people take a double-sided, its proof by contradiction.  The point here is the rule like its written and Iryna's thread can't both be here.

Since you seem most offended at my suggestion that Iryna isn't fake, let me clarify that for you too.  I think she's awesome and I'm a big fan of hers.  I also think she IS enhanced, but there is no definite proof.  It's an opinion.  You, me or anyone else can't go force someone to think she's enhanced without proof.


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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2017, 01:38:52 am »
Dude, either you don't understand my argument, or you didn't read carefully enough, or you didn't notice start of this debate.  Let me rehash:

- I posted a photo of a girl who, while dressed, looked to have a figure that is enhanced.
- Another poster implied that thread should be deleted because of the question of her enhanced figure.
- I responded saying I remember the post on IG stating the subject was enhanced.
- The other poster proceeded to ask me for detailed proof.
- I responded saying that the way that person was interpreting this rule seemed incorrect.  If their interpretation was correct, it could probably cause threads of models we like and strongly believe to be enhancde to be deleted.

I used Iryna as an example because, like you, I and others here, can look at her figure and say she is very likely enhanced.  However there is no "proof" of her enhancement (that I know of) besides her look that you, me and others think looks fake.

You don't seem to recognize this, but when people take a double-sided, its proof by contradiction.  The point here is the rule like its written and Iryna's thread can't both be here.

Since you seem most offended at my suggestion that Iryna isn't fake, let me clarify that for you too.  I think she's awesome and I'm a big fan of hers.  I also think she IS enhanced, but there is no definite proof.  It's an opinion.  You, me or anyone else can't go force someone to think she's enhanced without proof.

... Dude. My offence is that you still only "think" Iryna's enhanced and call for freaking definite proof when definite proof is in front of your eyeballs through photos and video.

It is the type of "opinion" that makes little to no sense as even with proof in hand, you'll call for more proof. It's ignorance. Plain and simple.

The gif I posted, clear shots of Iryna's implant scars. Did you need a blown up photo closeup? The proof you require is "beyond" reasonable that I doubt any evidence would be enough for you.

I mean, if you had even bothered to read Loveboobs reply to your initial ID post, He was asking for you to post the referring IG link of your ID post. So he could probably help you out.

Instead you thrashed out, giving a poor example of possible fake/real, naming Iryna as a questionable natural, then doubling down on saying Iryna's boobs are probably fake, but there is like a tiny chance they'd be all real....

The main difference:
 I say is that I know Iryna's boobs are fake. That is a 100% undisputed FACT.
You only wishfully "think" they are, when everyone else can plainly see with their eyes that Iryna's boobs are fake. 


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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2017, 02:58:26 am »
TickleTheo, leave it, it's pigeon chess.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #15 on: October 16, 2017, 03:04:31 am »
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #16 on: October 16, 2017, 06:08:40 am »
TickleTheo, leave it, it's pigeon chess.

I figured as much. Just annoying that a poster with 1800+ posts is this... blind on the obvious.

Most rational people would have gone to look for a better example rather than going all-in on a 0% chance that Iryna's boobs were magically real currently. This is the insane world we live in now as he keeps doubling down on that stance as well.


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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #17 on: October 16, 2017, 07:06:18 am »
Hey look: https://theperfectboobs.net/index.php?topic=42236.0

Yep, look, and read...

Not everyone, including others besides me, agrees with summary deletion of topics.  That is what I have been trying to argue, but you still don't seem to get it.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2017, 07:07:02 am »
TickleTheo, leave it, it's pigeon chess.

I figured as much. Just annoying that a poster with 1800+ posts is this... blind on the obvious.

Most rational people would have gone to look for a better example rather than going all-in on a 0% chance that Iryna's boobs were magically real currently. This is the insane world we live in now as he keeps doubling down on that stance as well.



Do you have a better example?

Also I saw your Iryna GIF... I had never seen this before (thanks for posting it), so yes, her having implants is pretty certain.  This is an example of "proof".

I picked Iryna because while she is fake, she has a natural look.  Also last time I checked her thread other posters questions her having implants, suggesting the change was natural.  I had never seen any scars, etc.

My point from the beginning has been do we really need to provide something like your GIF, an IG post, sworn statement, DNA sample, etc. for a thread to remain here?  If so, we are probably going to start seeing a lot less threads here.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2017, 01:18:16 pm »

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2017, 05:41:10 pm »
Do you have a better example?

Also I saw your Iryna GIF... I had never seen this before (thanks for posting it), so yes, her having implants is pretty certain.  This is an example of "proof".

I picked Iryna because while she is fake, she has a natural look.  Also last time I checked her thread other posters questions her having implants, suggesting the change was natural.  I had never seen any scars, etc.

My point from the beginning has been do we really need to provide something like your GIF, an IG post, sworn statement, DNA sample, etc. for a thread to remain here?  If so, we are probably going to start seeing a lot less threads here.
I have to provide an example for your argument? If there really was a serious question of Iryna's boobs being all real, there is a section called : Enhanced or Fake? Kinda specifically for the expressed purpose of forum members to guess if a girl's boobs are Enhanced or Fake. It isn't that frequently used, but it has been here.... for years now.

The reason you've never seen the gif, is that I literally made it from one of the snapchat videos of Iryna that was posted in her thread a full year ago. She's made at least a couple hundred different snapchat videos since. So confirming or denying her implant status was as simple as just checking up on her thread on this very forum.

Debate on Iryna's implant status ended... 3 years ago in 2014. There were a couple of posters/doubters working with outdated information, but when a girl does frequent magazine shoots, videos and is active on social media/snapchat. Kinda hard to hide the status of your implants if we're going to see them from every angle while being practically naked. The gif I posted is an old snapvideo that I just clipped cause you kept repeatedly raising doubts on Iryna's implants.

Your point on proof is kinda moot. There is a reason why the forum separates "Professional" models and social media amateurs. The professional's will always  have more content to confirm/deny implant status. Amateurs will have a much smaller pool of content to even guess from. Moderators move threads to where they hopefully fit and remove those that lack sufficent content.

Pretty much, if you are going to present an "amateur" model, you should present as much information as possible. So that if people have doubts, they can look it up or find out more information you might have missed.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #21 on: October 16, 2017, 05:49:28 pm »



You've been here since 2009 and this is what you bring to the conversation?  You should be age verified.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #22 on: October 16, 2017, 06:00:12 pm »
Do you have a better example?

Also I saw your Iryna GIF... I had never seen this before (thanks for posting it), so yes, her having implants is pretty certain.  This is an example of "proof".

I picked Iryna because while she is fake, she has a natural look.  Also last time I checked her thread other posters questions her having implants, suggesting the change was natural.  I had never seen any scars, etc.

My point from the beginning has been do we really need to provide something like your GIF, an IG post, sworn statement, DNA sample, etc. for a thread to remain here?  If so, we are probably going to start seeing a lot less threads here.
I have to provide an example for your argument? If there really was a serious question of Iryna's boobs being all real, there is a section called : Enhanced or Fake? Kinda specifically for the expressed purpose of forum members to guess if a girl's boobs are Enhanced or Fake. It isn't that frequently used, but it has been here.... for years now.

The reason you've never seen the gif, is that I literally made it from one of the snapchat videos of Iryna that was posted in her thread a full year ago. She's made at least a couple hundred different snapchat videos since. So confirming or denying her implant status was as simple as just checking up on her thread on this very forum.

Debate on Iryna's implant status ended... 3 years ago in 2014. There were a couple of posters/doubters working with outdated information, but when a girl does frequent magazine shoots, videos and is active on social media/snapchat. Kinda hard to hide the status of your implants if we're going to see them from every angle while being practically naked. The gif I posted is an old snapvideo that I just clipped cause you kept repeatedly raising doubts on Iryna's implants.

Your point on proof is kinda moot. There is a reason why the forum separates "Professional" models and social media amateurs. The professional's will always  have more content to confirm/deny implant status. Amateurs will have a much smaller pool of content to even guess from. Moderators move threads to where they hopefully fit and remove those that lack sufficent content.

Pretty much, if you are going to present an "amateur" model, you should present as much information as possible. So that if people have doubts, they can look it up or find out more information you might have missed.


You don't have to do anything, including provide an example, or comepletely derail an ID thread.

I'm not going to respond to your last comment because I don't have the time to read it all.

Bottom line is people post here when they think they find something good others will appreciate that meet the fake standard.

More deletion/shoting down and meme shit posting, less posts from those that have something to share.  You might as well join the BEA at that point.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #23 on: October 16, 2017, 07:05:16 pm »
You don't have to do anything, including provide an example, or comepletely derail an ID thread.

I'm not going to respond to your last comment because I don't have the time to read it all.

Bottom line is people post here when they think they find something good others will appreciate that meet the fake standard.

More deletion/shoting down and meme shit posting, less posts from those that have something to share.  You might as well join the BEA at that point.

... I see why LoveBoobs memed Pigeon chess.

Lets see now:
Who was the one that derailed their own ID thread?
Who initially raised up the topic of Iryna? Axis.
Who couldn't be convinced with a link with multiple photos of Iryna Before and After her enhancement?  Axis.
Who kept waffling on the authenticity of Iryna boobs till I had to make a freaking gif showing Iryna's surgical scars? Axis
Who still can't produce collaborating information on the ID they requested others help him with? Axis

When people question your post, they are asking for you to post more information.

Instead, you chose to lash out, provide bad examples. Then kept going "all in" on what was essentially your own "fake news".

At this point, I have doubts you ever wanted this thread to even be ID'd.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #24 on: October 16, 2017, 07:30:36 pm »
Theo, sounds like you have a bunch of pent up stress.  You've mentioned "fake news" at least twice.  Don't take your social and political frustrations out on me and this thread.

You failed to recognize that I agreed that Iryna is fake from the outset.  I said it multiple times, and different ways.  You still don't get it.  You missed the entire sarcastic point I made.

Go back and read the first 4 posts of this thread.  It was an ID thread, until someone someone got pushy.  I've posted many here.  Members like them and appreciate them.  You'll also notice it takes time for proof to come about.

Have you both posted any ID threads?  I looked at both of your histories and didn't notice any.  It would be great if you can teach us all how! Also when doing it provide all the references and proof that you both seem to need at initial posting.  Obviously I don't know what I'm doing and really need both yours and loveboob's help.  Maybe you both can write a detailed guide for our forum and how this is best done?

Hope you can educate us all and help us all out!

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #25 on: October 16, 2017, 08:14:23 pm »
Theo, sounds like you have a bunch of pent up stress.  You've mentioned "fake news" at least twice.  Don't take your social and political frustrations out on me and this thread.

You failed to recognize that I agreed that Iryna is fake from the outset.  I said it multiple times, and different ways.  You still don't get it.  You missed the entire sarcastic point I made.

Go back and read the first 4 posts of this thread.  It was an ID thread, until someone someone got pushy.  I've posted many here.  Members like them and appreciate them.  You'll also notice it takes time for proof to come about.

Have you both posted any ID threads?  I looked at both of your histories and didn't notice any.  It would be great if you can teach us all how! Also when doing it provide all the references and proof that you both seem to need at initial posting.  Obviously I don't know what I'm doing and really need both yours and loveboob's help.  Maybe you both can write a detailed guide for our forum and how this is best done?

Hope can educate us all and help us all out!


Lets try to educate Axis on how to internet then:

He probably didn't get what "Pigeon Chess" means: Lets look that up for him.

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." -- Scott D. Weitzenhoffer (From an Amazon.com

I mentioned "fake news" as it was exactly what you were attempting to push. A completely false allegation as the truth. Basically LYING! When other posters called you out on it. You kept doubling down and attempted to justify your position by saying there wasn't any "proof". So when others presented your damned proof, you then claimed to have held the same position all along, but on faith alone.

So now you claim we must read your posts again to posit you were right all along.

Here is your post in full:
Not a mistake Theo... ;)

This is exactly my point.  I agree, it's obvious to most people that she is enhanced, which I think she isHowever, there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case.

It seems that there is some sense of reason that needs to be used when applying this rule.  I understand why they mods set it, it was because there was post after post after post of girls that were obviously natural (think Score Voluptuous).

So to quote yourself, You "think" Iryna's enhanced. But you didn't know of any proof of her change besides her "look".

So, was what I presented as proof, new? Nope. A year old at least.
Was the debate on Iryna's boobs resolved years ago? Yup, in 2014 on this very forum which Axis has 1800+ posts in.

So what is Axis's "comeback" after being told, get back on topic on your own ID topic and provide ancillary information?
He goes to my post history to bash on my lack of asking for ID threads.

There is a reason why Pigeon chess was brought up. It fits this thread to a T.

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« Reply #26 on: October 16, 2017, 09:18:53 pm »
Theo, sounds like you have a bunch of pent up stress.  You've mentioned "fake news" at least twice.  Don't take your social and political frustrations out on me and this thread.

You failed to recognize that I agreed that Iryna is fake from the outset.  I said it multiple times, and different ways.  You still don't get it.  You missed the entire sarcastic point I made.

Go back and read the first 4 posts of this thread.  It was an ID thread, until someone someone got pushy.  I've posted many here.  Members like them and appreciate them.  You'll also notice it takes time for proof to come about.

Have you both posted any ID threads?  I looked at both of your histories and didn't notice any.  It would be great if you can teach us all how! Also when doing it provide all the references and proof that you both seem to need at initial posting.  Obviously I don't know what I'm doing and really need both yours and loveboob's help.  Maybe you both can write a detailed guide for our forum and how this is best done?

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Lets try to educate Axis on how to internet then:

He probably didn't get what "Pigeon Chess" means: Lets look that up for him.

"Debating creationists on the topic of evolution is rather like trying to play chess with a pigeon; it knocks the pieces over, craps on the board, and flies back to its flock to claim victory." -- Scott D. Weitzenhoffer (From an Amazon.com

I mentioned "fake news" as it was exactly what you were attempting to push. A completely false allegation as the truth. Basically LYING! When other posters called you out on it. You kept doubling down and attempted to justify your position by saying there wasn't any "proof". So when others presented your damned proof, you then claimed to have held the same position all along, but on faith alone.

So now you claim we must read your posts again to posit you were right all along.

Here is your post in full:
Not a mistake Theo... ;)

This is exactly my point.  I agree, it's obvious to most people that she is enhanced, which I think she isHowever, there is not any proof besides her change in look that this is the case.

It seems that there is some sense of reason that needs to be used when applying this rule.  I understand why they mods set it, it was because there was post after post after post of girls that were obviously natural (think Score Voluptuous).

So to quote yourself, You "think" Iryna's enhanced. But you didn't know of any proof of her change besides her "look".

So, was what I presented as proof, new? Nope. A year old at least.
Was the debate on Iryna's boobs resolved years ago? Yup, in 2014 on this very forum which Axis has 1800+ posts in.

So what is Axis's "comeback" after being told, get back on topic on your own ID topic and provide ancillary information?
He goes to my post history to bash on my lack of asking for ID threads.

There is a reason why Pigeon chess was brought up. It fits this thread to a T.

First, I want to say I'm surprised we're on the opposite side of this debate.  Early on, I thought we arguing the same point.  I guess not.

For someone comparing the Creationist debate to Iryna's boobs (she must be flattered, but you may want to look at the forum rules on that one, friendly advice), I'm still am surprised you don't get this Devil's Advocate argument (I'll let you look up the definition on that one, but I'll give you a hint, it not "lying".).

To put your Iryna heartburn to rest, again:
- I "know" (you like the word "know", so I'll use it instead of "think") given the evidence, her boobs are fake; I "knew" this also when I originally made this argument without the evidence, simply by mere reasonable observation of her "look".
- I picked her for my example (I'll pick someone else next time, had no idea it would get anyone hot and bothered to this degree), for these reasons, and because for having implants that what many here think has a natural look, compared to others.  Also like I said already, I did not know there was verifiable proof when I made this argument originally.  Also there was a time when the proof did not exist.  What then?
- I am not out on a limb here on this one, others in her thread asked this question, in her thread and about other models as well..

Maybe this is where we don't agree, casual observation being proof vs detail from the subject being proof.

The question remains what is the level of proof this forum really needs at the outset of an ID thread, or any model thread here for that matter.  If we are going follow the rule as it's written, prepare to kiss goodbye a lot of threads, you, me and others enjoy here.
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2017, 12:42:56 pm »
You've been here since 2009 and this is what you bring to the conversation?  You should be age verified.




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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2017, 06:18:53 pm »
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« Reply #29 on: October 18, 2017, 06:18:55 pm »
We remove natural girls/models from the entire appreciation section and identification sections without question when we see them or when they get reported. (Given they are the main subject of the topic).
The only exceptions are basically the Enhanced or not enhanced board or the Surgery section.

As for this topic, i don't see any evidence to support the notion that she has fake boobs, which qualifies it for removal. I'll keep it up for a bit so everybody can read this.
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« Reply #30 on: October 18, 2017, 06:46:22 pm »
Thanks Kwuk, I understand if it needs to be deleted.

Can you please clarify what qualifies as "evidence" for this section?  This is where the disagreement on this thread seems to stem from.  I know I'm confused.

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« Reply #31 on: October 18, 2017, 08:50:49 pm »
I'll just summarize since you've finally got back on topic:


If you actually want your initial post imgur photo ID'd, we need more to go on to perform any sort of internet detective work.

Pretty much you gave us a semi-grainy amateur photo uploaded on imgur. This leads anyone into a dead end after we've run the photo through the various reverse image search engines and social media trawlers.

Short of someone on the forum actually knowing the person in the photo or was the person taking the photo. Chances right now are slim to none for success, unless you can provide some more workable information to work with.

The evidence of enhancements was brought up by LoveBoobs simply because the girl in the photo was clothed in such a way that padding/inserts or various other means could be used to merely "imply" a enhanced look. There probably wouldn't be a request for evidence if more collaborating information on the girl could be found, which you've been stonewalling us on. Mentioning IG doesn't help if we don't have a link to work backwards from to determine the photo's origin.

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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #32 on: October 18, 2017, 09:23:50 pm »
If what you are describing as evidence is what Kwuk/mods intend, I am sure they will respond confirming it and I will respect it.

Since you felt the need to respond when Kwuk (Moderator) already did, let me point out to you that just an eyeballing of the other threads on the first page of this section (not including the other 410 pages) includes multiple threads that don't meet this standard that you describe.  Also, quite often an ID doesn't require more than someone to casually recognize a subject, which was intent of my post.

I hope you and others that have so much concern about this ID request can bring the same level of scrutiny to the other countless questionable posts to ensure the integrity of this section.  Looks like you have a lot of work ahead.

If you like, I'd be more than happy to nominate you become a Mod focused solely on this.  All of us, myself included, will thank you for it profusely when accomplished.
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« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2017, 01:09:18 pm »
I'll confirm that this is nowhere near the bar for evidence of implants as they could easily be natural or padded natural, and the points TickleTheo makes are all entirely reasonable.

axis, If you come across other posts with a similar level of non-evidence of implants, report them and I'll happily mod them as necessary.

Pinning and locking this thread as an example of what doesn't qualify for anything other than the "enhanced or not" sub-forum.
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Re: Re: NATURALS WILL BE DELETED!
« Reply #34 on: November 25, 2017, 01:23:59 am »
Attention loveboobs (Moderator):

I am posting a reply here because the thread I authored that is pinned and locked as an example of a thread that does not belong in this section of the forum, I could not reply to.

https://theperfectboobs.net/index.php?topic=42399.msg409779#msg409779
Quote from: iloveboobs topic=42399.msg409779#msg409779
I'll confirm that this is nowhere near the bar for evidence of implants as they could easily be natural or padded natural, and the points TickleTheo makes are all entirely reasonable.

axis, If you come across other posts with a similar level of non-evidence of implants, report them and I'll happily mod them as necessary.

Pinning and locking this thread as an example of what doesn't qualify for anything other than the "enhanced or not" sub-forum.

First, congratulations on being promoted to Moderator.  I along with others are looking forward to the cleanup of this section that has long been needed that I am sure you will lead very effectively.  Also I appreciate your offer to mod suspect threads we report as needed.

I would like to respectfully request what the evidence threshold is for this section.  It will be helpful to plebs like myself to get your authoritative position as Moderator on what belongs here and what doesn't.  I think what is still needed is the "bar" that is being referred to.

I myself have flagged at least 20 threads here today, including many that I originally created and have an interest in, that do not meet what I think this bar is that is stated.

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Re: NATURALS WILL BE DELETED!
« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2017, 08:56:05 am »
If you cannot tell the difference between this:

https://imgur.com/a/lXoRo

And this (reported by you today):


 ("Not sure if fake or not, no evidence, and not topless.")

 ("No evidence of being fake")

Then the solution is:

* post all your own IDs in "Enhanced or not Enhanced"
* don't flag any posts for not being fake breasts.

Swathes of the 53 post reports you created today are not in good faith, even though some are legitimate candidates for reports.

Also for the avoidance of all doubt (based on some of your other reports today), if the ID image is head swap where the breasts are fake, or a morph where the breasts were originally fake or subsequently look fake, either reply to the post to tell the poster, or ignore it. Don't report it for that reason.

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Re: NATURALS WILL BE DELETED!
« Reply #36 on: November 25, 2017, 09:01:26 am »
Further example of one of your reports today with the report comment:




"Could be fake, but could just be pushed up. No evidence provided."
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Re: Re: Unknown Black Babe
« Reply #37 on: November 25, 2017, 09:34:10 am »
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« Reply #38 on: December 09, 2017, 02:33:43 am »
After finding your response to all of this as a (very new) Moderator frustrating, deleting my account that has been here since 2011 because of it, and then having some time to reflect and rejoin, I would like to say the following to you:

- It's questionable that after becoming a Mod, you went back and pulled my thread back after a month, which had cooled off greatly.  I was starting to think differently about it all, but seeing you go back to a disagreement we had when you were not a Mod, and now apply your newfound power as a Mod on it, I question your motives and do not think they are in good faith.  It probably would have been better to just let it go.

- While I appreciate the even more visibility of the ID request I submitted that you have now pinned at the top of the forum section and called out as an example of an bad ID request (thanks...?), and publicly note my post flags that were done in private, this action seems like you are trying to make this personal and embarrassing for me, which is isn't.  I would recommend that you invent your own example instead of doing something like trying to shame someone who has been here as long as you have.  Doing this makes it harder for members like me to respect Moderators like you.

- As you noted and admitted, I submitted many (53 apparently, I knew it was it was in the 10s, also you're welcome for bringing these posts to your attention and helping you doing what you have had such serious concern about, but now you seem frustrated with actual work to do relating to it, complaining and saying you're clearing about my requests, which are apparently not as important now that you have responsibility to address them) reports for posts in the section of the forum in question.  Applying the subjective "standard" that you continue to refer to applies to all of these, and therefore all of them were in good faith because this standard is so open to discretion.  This is the point I made for nearly 2 months now, but people including yourself seem to be unwilling or unable to understand that.

- Again, it would be great now that you are Moderator, if you can please write a set of simple rules that say what can and what you can't post here.  As a Moderator you must understand (?) that when people look at photos they see different things.  You may look at a photo and think "obviously she's fake" and me or someone else look and say "umm, not so sure".  Reddits have very good examples if you need any.  You would be doing everyone here a favour, including myself so I know what can be posted, and yourself so you are no stuck with as much cleanup duty, and everyone avoiding an unpleasant thread like this.
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« Reply #39 on: December 09, 2017, 03:17:08 am »
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It simply isn't easy to prove whether someone is fake or natural, and it's not beneficial for our community to erase massive amounts of content "in case a natural slipped through". We have to err on the side of maybe.

The bottom line is it's really a gentleman's game without O.R. photos and such, and you are not playing like a gentleman. You're the guy pulling all the billiard balls out of the pockets claiming "you didn't see the shots so they don't count."

This is my take, just from what I've seen recently.

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« Reply #40 on: December 09, 2017, 03:49:59 am »
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It simply isn't easy to prove whether someone is fake or natural, and it's not beneficial for our community to erase massive amounts of content "in case a natural slipped through". We have to err on the side of maybe.

The bottom line is it's really a gentleman's game without O.R. photos and such, and you are not playing like a gentleman. You're the guy pulling all the billiard balls out of the pockets claiming "you didn't see the shots so they don't count."

This is my take, just from what I've seen recently.

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I 110% agree with your first statement.  This has been the problem.  The original post that I made that caused this row was a strong "maybe" case.  Live and let live you say?  I agree.

As for the Billiard analogy, not sure I understand it.  I admitted in very "gentleman" fashion I didn't see the shots, and agreed in that case that it was a poor example.
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