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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #45 on: September 30, 2021, 05:41:48 pm »
What about nobody SHOULD anything? You're free to express your opinion, have a vision. Just don't violate the freedom of others or push your narrative onto others in dishonest and manipulative ways.
Voicing your views on beauty to some girl is something totally different than systematically manipulating her into thinking your views are the only option she has to be any kind of worthy individual.

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #46 on: September 30, 2021, 06:26:49 pm »
Can we support sex workers and still find it problematic using them as rolemodels?

Exactly! If you support sex workers (and I do, and am certainly guilty of this myself), you are perpetuating male dominance of women. That's the foundation of the whole industry. Sure, you can argue that many work in the industry (and get enhancements) very willingly, and that makes it OK, but they are doing that within a system that is very unequal. Of course, many women have figured out how to use the system to their financial advantage, exploiting mens' desires, others probably thrive on the attention, but the positive experience of individuals does not make the system any more politically or socially correct. And I totally get it that most here just say, "To hell with political correctness!" Well, then nothing changes, and women continue to be objectified and exploited.

Ask yourself, "Why is there so little male pornography for women?"

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #47 on: October 01, 2021, 12:33:25 pm »
I’ve come out of retirement just to say that Wiild should talk, write and behave however he likes and not force that upon others. Wiild, I think you come from a much more misogynistic and oppressive place than your realize yourself, but that’s fine as long as it doesn’t negatively impact others.

Here’s the real deal:

1) There’s a difference between saying” SHE should get X amount of cc’s” in a discussion where a woman is the subject and saying “YOU should get X amount of cc’s” at a woman. Especially if you don’t know the woman you’re talking to or have any reason to think she wants your input.

2) It’s not up to you to decide the lifestyle and source of income that is right or wanted for a girl. Just like any person they should be able to decide for themselves and there are (were?) few opportunities as profitable for instance as the OnlyFans boom during peak-Covid.

3) Many people, especially females, like to be objectified in one way or another and will signal that desire to those who match and enjoy objectifying.

4) When I’m being sold a content with *WOMAN* vibes, it’s totally OK to talk about the seller in that way. You realize “Aletta Ocean” isn’t a real person right? She wasn’t born with the look, personality and name she portrays herself. It’s a role she plays because it makes her money and/or brings her joy. When Mary offers her body for sex, she’s aware she’s basically reducing herself to the same function as a Fleshlight. You use her to blow your load, that’s all. Seeing as she isn’t charging a lot of money, especially for her uniqueness when it comes to implant size, I think we can guess she enjoys that aspect.
General laws of fake boobage:
1) Fake boobs should not bring unnecessary health risks
2) Fake boobs should look as beautiful as possible, unless this breaks rule 1
3) Fake boobs should be as big as possible, unless this breaks rules 1 and 2

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #48 on: October 01, 2021, 02:36:19 pm »
Can we support sex workers and still find it problematic using them as rolemodels?

Exactly! If you support sex workers (and I do, and am certainly guilty of this myself), you are perpetuating male dominance of women.



Well, we have to admit, that to one extend, there are still some problems with gender equality in the western world.

But when we talk about sex workers, we have to draw a line between forced sex work, trafficking, etc and the sex workers we admire on this site.

In first category, it is a matter of force and it is without the consent of the "worker", and of course it is despicable.

In second category, it is a matter of professional choice. Either because this way of life suits them better, or because, of course, they can make many times the money that most people make in other professions.

It looks, in the way you are presenting this, that those women have no individual will, or intelligence, or even a choice what to do with their lives.

Isn't that a little bit downgrading to them?


Ask yourself, "Why is there so little male pornography for women?"

There is always demand and supply.

What is the thing that would stop the supply of male porn, if there was a demand?

Are there not enough actors, or because of the pay gap, there isn't any money left for women to pay for porn?

Maybe the "moral stigma" of a woman watching porn, but with the anonymity of the internet, i don't think this is a problem nowadays.



Please excuse any grammatical errors, I'm trying my best, but English is not my native language

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #49 on: October 02, 2021, 09:57:26 am »
I personally think that it is healthy for us men to reflect on how our consumption of porn effect us and the society as a whole.

One comment about one woman on a porn forum can be seen as nothing, but if we look at it on a macro level:   There is a constant voicing of views on beauty to women.  I personally would prefer if I don't contribute too much to this. 

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #50 on: October 02, 2021, 04:52:08 pm »
For those of you who want a rather amusing twist on equality and man vs woman check out @manwhohasitall on twitter

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #51 on: October 02, 2021, 10:58:27 pm »
I personally think that it is healthy for us men to reflect on how our consumption of porn effect us and the society as a whole.

One comment about one woman on a porn forum can be seen as nothing, but if we look at it on a macro level:   There is a constant voicing of views on beauty to women.  I personally would prefer if I don't contribute too much to this.

I think i am starting to see a point in your reasoning.

First, it appeared that you are trying to protect adult workers from the very essence of their work. As i said, they are in this thing consciously and i don't think they care about any kind of protection, since our various kinks are bringing the food on the table for them.

I guess the problem starts when porn consumers believe that the characters they are seeing appear in real life.

It should be obvious, that women in our everyday life are complex human beings and not fictional, one sided, oversimplified porn personas.

It occurred to me only right now, that some people may have this problem, because i never had this issue by myself.

But even in real life, when people get together, they can do the "weirdest" things, and it will still be none of our business to judge, as long as there is mutual consent. Even if it don't fits our own world theory.

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2021, 03:06:23 pm »
I personally think that it is healthy for us men to reflect on how our consumption of porn effect us and the society as a whole.

One comment about one woman on a porn forum can be seen as nothing, but if we look at it on a macro level:   There is a constant voicing of views on beauty to women.  I personally would prefer if I don't contribute too much to this.

All true.

That still doesn't make loving big fake boobies in and of itself wrong.
None of us went out and chose what we are attracted to.
I couldn't "self reflect" that away from me, no matter how much i tried.

What matters is how we relate to what we are attracted to.
And that is basic sexual communication.
Stating what you desire, not forcing anything upon other people and not shaming anyone for their own kinks.
Most people cannot provide what they are attracted to themselves. It's the nature of sexuality.

Repression of women happens when we can't communicate our interests, not because we have them.

There is also nothing wrong with connecting with like minded people over similar interests and sharing information about it.
Of course I would prefer if this forum was more female friendly - if anything because it would be more couples friendly too.
And there are ways to do that, but that is for the most part a different question in my opinion.

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Re: Moral implications of being a perfect boobs lover
« Reply #53 on: November 27, 2021, 11:14:43 pm »
After reading Nova Nice's open answer about the risks of XL implant surgery I am getting even more cautious about encouraging women to get XL size implants. 


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