More than 170,000 people dead in six months, and the numbers steadily rising, with all EXPERT predictions being that the inept, haphazard, half-assed fashion the US is opening schools is going to lead to yet another huge spike, headed into flu season.
1) 'all EXPERT' - no offense, but what a ridiculous statement. You don't know who 'all' the 'experts' even are. So to say 'all of them' have said anything is totally unprovable.
2) you want an 'expert' opinion? Okay:
https://www.redstate.com/michael_thau/2020/07/27/head-of-cdc-lockdown-suicides-drug-ods-killing-way-more-americans-than-covid/
That means that the lockdown has CAUSED more deaths than the virus has in America.
Plus, if you use the Swedish death rate - there would only be about 13,000+ extra deaths in America then there are now (as I cited above).
That means that had America had no lockdowns, well over 150,000 more Americans would be alive now then with the lockdowns.
And that is ALL from 'experts'.
But - let me guess - you only choose to believe the 'experts' that support your narrative?
Excuse me for painting with a broad brush. MOST REPUTABLE experts are saying it's going to get worse as the second wave piles onto the first wave that never went away, along with flu season.
And as for your link, the author does some pretty fancy dancing to take Dr. Redfield completely out of context, and conclude when he says there are more suicides than COVID deaths, that means the lockdowns are to blame. If that were true, suicides would be easing as states open, and that's not happening. Psychology Today did a piece about COVID related suicides, and found the pandemic itself is feeding depression. For instance, the early March story in Italy about the young man with a nasty cough, who jumped out a hospital window while waiting for his test results.
As the evil orange Caligula has stated, "It is what it is." You can take as much nonsense out of context as you want, you can play with statistics all you want, you can claim 80% of localities are seeing improvement, but the numbers do NOT lie. South Korea had ONE death yesterday, compared to 1358 in the US. Imagine if 1358 people died of ANYTHING in one day when Obama was president. Would you be rationalizing and dancing around the facts to defend him? When two Americans died of Ebola, right wing media went batshit. And it should also be said right wing media also ranted and raved about what a waste it was to deploy American troops to Africa to build field hospitals, and to send CDC and NIH people to isolate and track infections, thus saving the world from something that was MUCH deadlier than COVID.
1) And where is this list of 'reputable experts' you are referring to? The ONLY way to know 'most' have given a certain opinion is to know how many there are in the first place.
2) Out of context?
He said the following:
'“We’re seeing, sadly, far greater suicides now than we are deaths from Covid. We’re seeing far greater deaths from drug overdose, that are above excess, than we had as background, than we are seeing deaths from Covid.”'Those are numerical FACTS.
Of course the lockdowns are to blame.
You obviously just refuse to believe the truth because it knocks something you obviously believe in strongly...lockdowns.
You want more proof?'The coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic has been associated with mental health challenges related to the morbidity and mortality caused by the disease and to mitigation activities, including the impact of physical distancing and stay-at-home orders.* Symptoms of anxiety disorder and depressive disorder increased considerably in the United States during April–June of 2020, compared with the same period in 2019 (1,2). To assess mental health, substance use, and suicidal ideation during the pandemic, representative panel surveys were conducted among adults aged ≥18 years across the United States during June 24–30, 2020. Overall, 40.9% of respondents reported at least one adverse mental or behavioral health condition, including symptoms of anxiety disorder or depressive disorder (30.9%), symptoms of a trauma- and stressor-related disorder (TSRD) related to the pandemic† (26.3%), and having started or increased substance use to cope with stress or emotions related to COVID-19 (13.3%).
The percentage of respondents who reported having seriously considered suicide in the 30 days before completing the survey (10.7%) was significantly higher among respondents aged 18–24 years (25.5%), minority racial/ethnic groups (Hispanic respondents [18.6%], non-Hispanic black respondents [15.1%]), self-reported unpaid caregivers for adults§ (30.7%), and essential workers¶ (21.7%). Community-level intervention and prevention efforts, including health communication strategies, designed to reach these groups could help address various mental health conditions associated with the COVID-19 pandemic.'
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/volumes/69/wr/mm6932a1.htmAnd more proof...
'A study by Mental Health Index published this month shows the risk for depression among U.S. workers has risen an alarming 102% since February of this year.'https://www.forbes.com/sites/bryanrobinson/2020/08/22/upsurge-in-depression-and-suicide-among-american-workers-during-the-pandemic-and-what-needs-to-be-done/#206d523ddb53Why else do you think depression amongst workers in America has more than doubled since February? It's OBVIOUSLY because of the lockdowns.
How many more links to data do you need before you will admit that the lockdowns are causing a MASSIVE increase in suicides and suicidal thoughts?
Just give me a number, please?
And this does NOT include all the increased deaths from drug overdoses PLUS all the many thousands of deaths that will occur because people who needed medical care have not been getting it.
3) And please stop posting numbers without links. I don't care what you say you read in Psychology Today. I only care what it actually said.
The odds of dying of COVID-19 if you are otherwise healthy is over 1,500:1 AGAINST. Most people know only old farts and/or REALLY sick people are dying of COVID-19. Why would a young person be depressed about dying of something that it is virtually impossible for them to die from? That makes no sense.
There are 14 MILLION less Americans employed over this time, last year in America (ALL due to the lockdowns).https://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.a.htmAre you seriously suggesting that the reason Americans are killing themselves in far greater numbers in 2020 is more due to a virus with a death rate barely over a serious flu (about 1/2 of 1%) that virtually only kills the old or the very sick? Rather then the 14+ million unemployed due to the lockdowns?Look...I will make it simple for you and all the other 'lockdowners'.Sweden's COVID-19 death's per million is 567.8 (with no lockdowns).
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/Multiply that by America's population of 330 million and you get 187,374 deaths if America did not lockdown at ALL (like Sweden).
America has already had 173,716 COVID-19 deaths and she did lockdown.
So - AT MOST - the lockdown's saved 13,342 COVID-19 deaths in America.That means that if all the suicides and drug O/D deaths and deaths because of lack of cancer treatments/medical procedures that are because of the lockdowns TOGETHER equals more than 13,342 (and we know they are - even the CDC admits it)?
Than we KNOW that the lockdowns have killed more people than they have saved.And that makes them a 100% failure.